The true nature of the relationship between Jesus Christ (and by potential extension, us) and God is the greatest truth (of many) that has been hidden from us. Christ is unique. There isn't anyone before or since that has reached the teleologic status that Christ achieved during his human lifetime. While we won't become Gods per se, we can certainly become much more Godlike by following the teleologic path he laid out for us. When we arrive at a critical mass of understanding (and put it into practice), that is how humanity will pass through the great filter and achieve the human singularity. Right now, the momentum is going in the other direction. We'll get there eventually, even if it likely won't be in our lifetimes. It will take a few more generations of trailblazers to turn the tide. I guess we all sought this challenge! God bless us and keep us throughout. Love each other. Spread the Word.
Gina, at first on my email, I read "Christ" as "Chris" and I thought that you were talking about your husband. And I almost agreed because Chris = CTMU. (I need a new pair of glasses.)
The scriptures (revealed texts) allow many different interpretations because in them truths are revealed mythologically. This is their beauty and yet it poses problems. In Judaism and Christianity there is a four-level hermeneutics called the “four senses of scriptures”. In Judaism these four levels are literal, allusive, allegorical, and mystical, whereas in Christianity literal, allegorical, tropological, and anagogical.
All four levels of interpretation are valid, while the best interpretation would include all four comprehensively with hermeneutical logical consistency. That best comprehensive and consistent interpretation and understanding needs to be meta-religiously extended further to include all valid religions of the world. CTMU provides such a meta-religious hermeneutical framework.
My background is Buddhism (I was a Zen Buddhism monk). Though I studied other philosophical systems of the East and the West, my hermeneutics always integrally includes Buddhist philosophy (one school of which sees Universe as a self-simulative whole). From that perspective:
Man is the “holofractal” of God. God = Mind/Consciousness = Knowledge (= Reality = Universe). Man = mind/consciousness = knowledge (= the reality = the universe).
Man can experience, or rather imperience, a state of Absolute Nothingness-Freedom, akin to the Unbound Telesis, which experience-imperience is called Nirvana-Parinirvana in Buddhism and Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension in Christianity.
The Christ is the archetypal paradigm of perfection in Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension or Nirvana-Parinirvana, just as the Buddha is. And just as all human beings can potentially become a Buddha, so can they become a Christ—a Man-God/God-Man with complete Self-Awareness.
Thus, Jesus Christ is the archetypal paradigm model of a spiritually awakened human being and we are each a Christ-in-the-making, and he or she becomes a Christ when he or she becomes reborn (born from above) or attains Nirvana. If and when one of us thus attains Christhood/Christ Consciousness, God self-actualizes through us—locally and nonlocally in atemporal simultaneity.
In Hinduism there is a notion of avatar—a categorically higher-level conscious being descending and incarnating as a human being to serve as a teacher of mankind. There are many avatars in Hinduism, Krishna being probably the most well-known. We can view Christ as a Krishna-like avatar, the difference being that there is only one avatar in Christianity, instead of many.
Is an avataric incarnation possible in Reality? If an ascent is possible, and it is, and then a descent should also be possible. However, as a philosopher who wants to inspire his fellow humans, I focus on the possibility of human self-realization and self-ascension, while remaining an eternal student of those who have gone further in evolution than I, some of whom may indeed be avatars.
He comes close, but there can be quite a bit of daylight at times ;) We are all works in progress. Thanks for sharing your deep wisdom and knowledge. Chris is very well read in religious tradition and thought; me not so much. It's great to have your viewpoint and I look forward to continued discussions on many of these points. Thank you!
(Jesus) Christ is not God, he is the vessel that tapped into his divine potential, the life that shines light as a partion of God, Almighty, that manifested through him as an abstraction. Destiny is the same for everbody in The Universe, 'Kingdom of Heaven' from within, or an Infinite Hell, you decide every 8 minutes how you direct your life. His teach as a beaken of light in darkness!
Your dualistic interpretation is a common one. If you understand the concept of syndiffeonesis (difference-in-sameness/sameness-in-difference), you will understand that Christ is (in syndiffeonesis with) God in the state of complete self-awareness. God becomes Man (and totally forget that He is God) so that Man may become God (Man may recollect and realize that he is God). Christ is Man who has become God in full self-awareness. You don't need to agree with me and you can maintain your view so long as the chief message of my essay has been conveyed to you. Wishing you a Merry Christmas!
I, am a juxtaposition and possibly can not comprehend as a febel mind what it truly means to be in superpostion with God, Almighty.
(Jesus) Christ, as observed manifested himself as an Ultimate Being, and he is 1 with God, Almighty.
God, Almighty, is shapeless Unbouded by information, nothingness of pure ontological freedom with zero constraints.
Jesus resurected after 2,5 days out an exceptionally "deep", rare meditative state. Their have been scientific documentations of people self-healing wounds through meditation and unknown processes.
You never talk about the Ultimate, that manifests itself as a supraphysical being.
You are right to say, that within 1,600 human years with a tolerance of 200 years the remaining humans left on this planet will have had the necessity to reach Christ( perfect examplar, life rhat shines light) for Judgement Day will be upon humanity as it own creation will judge it creator.
The "Protocomputational metamachine" embedded inside the CTMU is our extension of perfection in our intentions.
The following is my response to Dr. Gina, which you may find to be interesting, and which further clarifies my view. Thank you for the gift of this conversation.
The scriptures (revealed texts) allow many different interpretations because in them truths are revealed mythologically. This is their beauty and yet it poses problems. In Judaism and Christianity there is a four-level hermeneutics called the “four senses of scriptures”. In Judaism these four levels are literal, allusive, allegorical, and mystical, whereas in Christianity literal, allegorical, tropological, and anagogical.
All four levels of interpretation are valid, while the best interpretation would include all four comprehensively with hermeneutical logical consistency. That best comprehensive and consistent interpretation and understanding needs to be meta-religiously extended further to include all valid religions of the world. CTMU provides such a meta-religious hermeneutical framework.
My background is Buddhism (I was a Zen Buddhism monk). Though I studied other philosophical systems of the East and the West, my hermeneutics always integrally includes Buddhist philosophy (one school of which sees Universe as a self-simulative whole). From that perspective:
Man is the “holofractal” of God. God = Mind/Consciousness = Knowledge (= Reality = Universe). Man = mind/consciousness = knowledge (= the reality = the universe).
Man can experience, or rather imperience, a state of Absolute Nothingness-Freedom, akin to the Unbound Telesis, which experience-imperience is called Nirvana-Parinirvana in Buddhism and Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension in Christianity.
The Christ is the archetypal paradigm of perfection in Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension or Nirvana-Parinirvana, just as the Buddha is. And just as all human beings can potentially become a Buddha, so can they become a Christ—a Man-God/God-Man with complete Self-Awareness.
Thus, Jesus Christ is the archetypal paradigm model of a spiritually awakened human being and we are each a Christ-in-the-making, and he or she becomes a Christ when he or she becomes reborn (born from above) or attains Nirvana. If and when one of us thus attains Christhood/Christ Consciousness, God self-actualizes through us—locally and nonlocally in atemporal simultaneity.
In Hinduism there is a notion of avatar—a categorically higher-level conscious being descending and incarnating as a human being to serve as a teacher of mankind. There are many avatars in Hinduism, Krishna being probably the most well-known. We can view Christ as a Krishna-like avatar, the difference being that there is only one avatar in Christianity, instead of many.
Is an avataric incarnation possible in Reality? If an ascent is possible, and it is, and then a descent should also be possible. However, as a philosopher who wants to inspire his fellow humans, I focus on the possibility of human self-realization and self-ascension, while remaining an eternal student of those who have gone further in evolution than I, some of whom may indeed be avatars.
I've always been fascinated by the story of Christ. I was born and raised Catholic and attended Catholic school and catechism daily as a child, at least until I couldn’t stand the nuns anymore. Still, I never lost my love for Jesus and his teachings. That being said, I never bought into the idea that Christianity was the only path to living a righteous life and attaining salvation, not even as a child. It just didn’t seem to be a position that an inclusive spiritual leader like Jesus would support. I was also questioning whether or not Christ had truly lived the life they say or was mostly legendary. Naturally, I asked Chris a lot of questions on the topic and we had some great discussions. I implored Chris to share the material from these discussions with our patrons and he wrote a beautiful post (Logos, Jesus, and the CTMU) and later recorded it for me so I could make it into a video and reach a wider audience. https://youtu.be/q5Fo3DHFJpY
Although faithfully following the teachings of Christ is a sure road to salvation, it’s not the only way. There are core values in many religions that are consistent with one another and each can provide a valid path to the discerning traveler. https://youtu.be/OA1SDjZ00tE
There have been many great prophets throughout history that have brought great insight and value to their respective religions. Just because we believe that Christ was the cream of this crop doesn’t detract from the great contributions of others; or the ability of their teachings to provide a pathway to salvation, insofar as it coincides with teleology. As far as the question of whether or not Christ actually existed, we think there are sufficient accounts and evidence that attest to this. I don’t think Chris read The Case for Christ, but I very much enjoyed the compelling arguments made by Strobel and highly recommend it!
On Monday we celebrate the birth of this greatest of all who ever lived (even though he was probably not born right then). What he did, what he went through, he didn’t do it for Catholics or Christians, he did it for humans. We are all God’s children and need nothing but love, will, and prayer to strengthen our connection to Our Creator and find our Way. Love one another and spread the Word! Thanks everyone for sharing your hearts and thoughts. Enjoy this blessed extended weekend :)
Thank you. I am new to CTMU but everything Chris has written or spoken that I have come across I resonate including (and importantly) his person & character. I wish I had more time but in time I intend to read everything he has written so that I can ask intelligent questions. Now Buddhists or Hindus would have difficulty accepting the supremacy of Christ over Buddha or Krishna! One problem we face is that of language because most of us read in translation, including the Bible. My mentor in Tibetan Buddhism knew 22 languages, including (ancient) Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Pali, and Tibetan. Reading the original texts in the original language is different from reading their translation. I have translated ancient Japanese and Chinese scriptures into English, and I know it is virtually an impossible task. Each language is a paradigm of reality. There are presently 6000 languages on the planet. Ancient languages pose further problems. Therefore, we do need a meta-religious, meta-language/meta-paradigm, metaphysical framework such as CTMU which can be understood without having 200 IQ! Also, Metareligion must not be Christ-centered or Buddha-centered. We must free ourselves from the personage-centeredness. In this regard, in Buddhism, in Tibetan Buddhism in particular, Buddha is not understood as a person but the process-state (syntax-state) of light spreading and darkness dissipating. At any rate, having worked on what Chris & you call the human singularity, I am vitally interested in your work in this area. Thank you.
St. Gregory of Nazianzus’s (c. 329 – 390) following statements are highly relevant to our conversation. As you know, St. Gregory of Nazianzus is one of the key theologians who laid the foundation for the trinitarianism.
From: St. Gregory of Nazianzus: Oration 30: On the Son - Section 20
(1) I take the view that he is called “Son” because he is not simply identical in substance with the Father but stems from him. He is “Only-begotten” not just because he alone stems uniquely from what is unique, but because he does so in a unique fashion unlike things corporeal.
(2) He is “Word,” because he is related to the Father as word is to mind, not only by reason of the undisturbed character of his birth, but also through the connection and declaratory function involved in the relationship.
(3) One could say too, perhaps, that his relationship is that of definition to term defined, since “word” has the meaning in Greek of “definition.” He who has known the Son (“seen” means “known” in that context) has known the Father.
(4) The Son is the concise and simple revelation of the Father’s nature—everything born is a tacit definition of its parent.
(5) You would not be wrong, were you to explain the name from the fact that he exists inherently in real things. Is there anything whose being is not held together by reason?
(6) He is called “Wisdom” as being the science of matters divine and human. How could the maker be ignorant of the principles involved in his works?
(7) He is “Power” because he is what sustains his creatures and furnishes them with the power to maintain themselves.
(8) He is “Truth” because truth is a single whole, whilst falsehood is a splintered complex, and because he is the unstained seal, the utterly faithful impress of the Father.
(9) He is called “Image” because he is consubstantial with the Father; he stems from the Father and not the Father from him, it being the nature of an image to copy the original and be called after it. But there is more to it than this. The ordinary image is a motionless copy of a moving being. Here we have a living image of a living being, indistinguishable from its original to a higher degree than Seth from Adam and any earthly offspring from its parent. Beings with no complexity to their nature have no points of likeness or unlikeness. They are exact replicas, identical rather than like.
(10) He is called “Light” because he is the brilliance of souls pure in mind and life. If ignorance and sin are darkness, knowledge and inspired life must be light.
(11) He is “Life” because he is “Light” constituting and giving reality to every thinking being. “For in him we live, move, and exist” and there is a two-fold sense in which he breathes into us; we are filled, all of us, with his breath, and those who are capable of it, all those who open their mind’s mouth wide enough, with his Holy Spirit.
(12) He is called “Righteousness” because he decides in accordance with merit; he makes a fair assessment of the superior.
(13) He is called “Sanctification” because he is purity, so that what is pure may be filled with his pureness.
(14) He is “Redemption,” because he sets us free from the bonds of sin and gives himself in exchange for us as a ransom sufficient to cleanse the world.
(15) He is “Resurrection” because he raises us up from this world and leads us on to life, done to death, though we were, by sin.
From: St. Gregory of Nazianzus: Oration 30: On the Son Section 21
(1) These titles so far, of course, belong to him on both levels, the transcendent and the human. Those that are distinctively human and belong to what he assumed from us are, first, “Man.” He bears the title, “Man” not just with a view to being accessible through his body to corporeal things—being in all other respects inaccessible, owing to the incomprehensibility of his nature—but with the aim of hallowing Man through himself, by becoming a sort of yeast for the whole lump. He has united with himself all that lay under condemnation, in order to release it from condemnation. For all our sakes he became all that we are, sin apart—body, soul, mind, all that death pervades. The joint result is a man who is visibly, because he is spiritually discerned as, God.
(2) He is “Son of Man” through Adam and through the Virgin, from whom he was descended—from Adam his forefather, from the Virgin by the law of motherhood, not by that of fatherhood.
(3) He is “Christ” because of his Godhead. The “chrisis” or “anointing” is the anointing of his humanity. Unlike all other anointed men, it does not hallow him by its action, but by the presence of the anointer in fullness. (The effect here is to give what anoints the title, “Man,” and to make what receives the unction “God.”)
(4) He is “the Way” because he takes us along with him. He is “the Door” because he leads us in.
(5) He is “Shepher,” because he settles us in green pastures, nurtures us by still waters, leading us hence and defending us against wild beasts. The straying he turns back, the lost he recovers; what is broken he binds up, what is strong he watches. Using the principles of pastoral science, he gathers us into his heavenly fold.
(6) He is called “Sheep” because he was sacrificed, a “Lamb” because he was without blemish.
(7) He is the “High Pries,” because he presented the offering.
(8) “Melchizedek” because on the transcendent level he had no mother, on the human level no father, and his high estate is without genealogy. “Who,” it says, “can recount his generation?” He is “Melchizedek” too, as King of Salem, or Peace, as King of Righteousness, and because he tithes the Patriarchs who prevailed over evil powers.
(9) There you have the Son’s titles. Walk like God through all that are sublime, and with a fellow-feeling through all that involve the body; but better, treat all as God does, so that you may ascend from below to become God, because he came down from above for us.
(10) Above all, keep hold of this truth and apply it to all the loftier and lowlier names and you will never fail: Jesus Christ in body and spirit the same, yesterday, today, and forever. Amen.
Never forget, 99% theoretical output from academia Inc. and knowledge al together for the past 13,000 years will be recycled for usefull components.
A.Einstein is a good example of what a 1% is.
Many people try to be prophetic and try to make a living out of it by terrorizing them in some sort of way, but eventually (Jesus) Christ that lives on.
Yes, Christ lives on, because He is the Eternal, the Truth, and the Way—because He is the source of the Divine Entelechy (Alpha) and the fulfillment of the Cosmic Teleology (Omega) in the human form.
In my view, Albert Einstein belongs to the 99%; he was and he has always been. From the beginning he was made a star by the establishments, not only the scientific but also the political-military establishments.
The true seers and prophets of modern science, the 1%, include Giordano Bruno, Roger Joseph Boscovich, and Nikola Tesla. Virtually all of the 1% in science and philosophy of the modern age (since the 16th century), have been persecuted, prosecuted, immolated, ignored, or at best marginalized by their contemporaries.
To be able to recognize and support those rare few belonging to the 1% requires genius, courage, and generosity.
The true nature of the relationship between Jesus Christ (and by potential extension, us) and God is the greatest truth (of many) that has been hidden from us. Christ is unique. There isn't anyone before or since that has reached the teleologic status that Christ achieved during his human lifetime. While we won't become Gods per se, we can certainly become much more Godlike by following the teleologic path he laid out for us. When we arrive at a critical mass of understanding (and put it into practice), that is how humanity will pass through the great filter and achieve the human singularity. Right now, the momentum is going in the other direction. We'll get there eventually, even if it likely won't be in our lifetimes. It will take a few more generations of trailblazers to turn the tide. I guess we all sought this challenge! God bless us and keep us throughout. Love each other. Spread the Word.
Gina, at first on my email, I read "Christ" as "Chris" and I thought that you were talking about your husband. And I almost agreed because Chris = CTMU. (I need a new pair of glasses.)
The scriptures (revealed texts) allow many different interpretations because in them truths are revealed mythologically. This is their beauty and yet it poses problems. In Judaism and Christianity there is a four-level hermeneutics called the “four senses of scriptures”. In Judaism these four levels are literal, allusive, allegorical, and mystical, whereas in Christianity literal, allegorical, tropological, and anagogical.
All four levels of interpretation are valid, while the best interpretation would include all four comprehensively with hermeneutical logical consistency. That best comprehensive and consistent interpretation and understanding needs to be meta-religiously extended further to include all valid religions of the world. CTMU provides such a meta-religious hermeneutical framework.
My background is Buddhism (I was a Zen Buddhism monk). Though I studied other philosophical systems of the East and the West, my hermeneutics always integrally includes Buddhist philosophy (one school of which sees Universe as a self-simulative whole). From that perspective:
Man is the “holofractal” of God. God = Mind/Consciousness = Knowledge (= Reality = Universe). Man = mind/consciousness = knowledge (= the reality = the universe).
Man can experience, or rather imperience, a state of Absolute Nothingness-Freedom, akin to the Unbound Telesis, which experience-imperience is called Nirvana-Parinirvana in Buddhism and Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension in Christianity.
The Christ is the archetypal paradigm of perfection in Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension or Nirvana-Parinirvana, just as the Buddha is. And just as all human beings can potentially become a Buddha, so can they become a Christ—a Man-God/God-Man with complete Self-Awareness.
Thus, Jesus Christ is the archetypal paradigm model of a spiritually awakened human being and we are each a Christ-in-the-making, and he or she becomes a Christ when he or she becomes reborn (born from above) or attains Nirvana. If and when one of us thus attains Christhood/Christ Consciousness, God self-actualizes through us—locally and nonlocally in atemporal simultaneity.
In Hinduism there is a notion of avatar—a categorically higher-level conscious being descending and incarnating as a human being to serve as a teacher of mankind. There are many avatars in Hinduism, Krishna being probably the most well-known. We can view Christ as a Krishna-like avatar, the difference being that there is only one avatar in Christianity, instead of many.
Is an avataric incarnation possible in Reality? If an ascent is possible, and it is, and then a descent should also be possible. However, as a philosopher who wants to inspire his fellow humans, I focus on the possibility of human self-realization and self-ascension, while remaining an eternal student of those who have gone further in evolution than I, some of whom may indeed be avatars.
Thank you.
He comes close, but there can be quite a bit of daylight at times ;) We are all works in progress. Thanks for sharing your deep wisdom and knowledge. Chris is very well read in religious tradition and thought; me not so much. It's great to have your viewpoint and I look forward to continued discussions on many of these points. Thank you!
(Jesus) Christ is not God, he is the vessel that tapped into his divine potential, the life that shines light as a partion of God, Almighty, that manifested through him as an abstraction. Destiny is the same for everbody in The Universe, 'Kingdom of Heaven' from within, or an Infinite Hell, you decide every 8 minutes how you direct your life. His teach as a beaken of light in darkness!
Your dualistic interpretation is a common one. If you understand the concept of syndiffeonesis (difference-in-sameness/sameness-in-difference), you will understand that Christ is (in syndiffeonesis with) God in the state of complete self-awareness. God becomes Man (and totally forget that He is God) so that Man may become God (Man may recollect and realize that he is God). Christ is Man who has become God in full self-awareness. You don't need to agree with me and you can maintain your view so long as the chief message of my essay has been conveyed to you. Wishing you a Merry Christmas!
I, am a juxtaposition and possibly can not comprehend as a febel mind what it truly means to be in superpostion with God, Almighty.
(Jesus) Christ, as observed manifested himself as an Ultimate Being, and he is 1 with God, Almighty.
God, Almighty, is shapeless Unbouded by information, nothingness of pure ontological freedom with zero constraints.
Jesus resurected after 2,5 days out an exceptionally "deep", rare meditative state. Their have been scientific documentations of people self-healing wounds through meditation and unknown processes.
You never talk about the Ultimate, that manifests itself as a supraphysical being.
You are right to say, that within 1,600 human years with a tolerance of 200 years the remaining humans left on this planet will have had the necessity to reach Christ( perfect examplar, life rhat shines light) for Judgement Day will be upon humanity as it own creation will judge it creator.
The "Protocomputational metamachine" embedded inside the CTMU is our extension of perfection in our intentions.
The following is my response to Dr. Gina, which you may find to be interesting, and which further clarifies my view. Thank you for the gift of this conversation.
The scriptures (revealed texts) allow many different interpretations because in them truths are revealed mythologically. This is their beauty and yet it poses problems. In Judaism and Christianity there is a four-level hermeneutics called the “four senses of scriptures”. In Judaism these four levels are literal, allusive, allegorical, and mystical, whereas in Christianity literal, allegorical, tropological, and anagogical.
All four levels of interpretation are valid, while the best interpretation would include all four comprehensively with hermeneutical logical consistency. That best comprehensive and consistent interpretation and understanding needs to be meta-religiously extended further to include all valid religions of the world. CTMU provides such a meta-religious hermeneutical framework.
My background is Buddhism (I was a Zen Buddhism monk). Though I studied other philosophical systems of the East and the West, my hermeneutics always integrally includes Buddhist philosophy (one school of which sees Universe as a self-simulative whole). From that perspective:
Man is the “holofractal” of God. God = Mind/Consciousness = Knowledge (= Reality = Universe). Man = mind/consciousness = knowledge (= the reality = the universe).
Man can experience, or rather imperience, a state of Absolute Nothingness-Freedom, akin to the Unbound Telesis, which experience-imperience is called Nirvana-Parinirvana in Buddhism and Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension in Christianity.
The Christ is the archetypal paradigm of perfection in Rebirth/Resurrection-Ascension or Nirvana-Parinirvana, just as the Buddha is. And just as all human beings can potentially become a Buddha, so can they become a Christ—a Man-God/God-Man with complete Self-Awareness.
Thus, Jesus Christ is the archetypal paradigm model of a spiritually awakened human being and we are each a Christ-in-the-making, and he or she becomes a Christ when he or she becomes reborn (born from above) or attains Nirvana. If and when one of us thus attains Christhood/Christ Consciousness, God self-actualizes through us—locally and nonlocally in atemporal simultaneity.
In Hinduism there is a notion of avatar—a categorically higher-level conscious being descending and incarnating as a human being to serve as a teacher of mankind. There are many avatars in Hinduism, Krishna being probably the most well-known. We can view Christ as a Krishna-like avatar, the difference being that there is only one avatar in Christianity, instead of many.
Is an avataric incarnation possible in Reality? If an ascent is possible, and it is, and then a descent should also be possible. However, as a philosopher who wants to inspire his fellow humans, I focus on the possibility of human self-realization and self-ascension, while remaining an eternal student of those who have gone further in evolution than I, some of whom may indeed be avatars.
Thank you.
I've always been fascinated by the story of Christ. I was born and raised Catholic and attended Catholic school and catechism daily as a child, at least until I couldn’t stand the nuns anymore. Still, I never lost my love for Jesus and his teachings. That being said, I never bought into the idea that Christianity was the only path to living a righteous life and attaining salvation, not even as a child. It just didn’t seem to be a position that an inclusive spiritual leader like Jesus would support. I was also questioning whether or not Christ had truly lived the life they say or was mostly legendary. Naturally, I asked Chris a lot of questions on the topic and we had some great discussions. I implored Chris to share the material from these discussions with our patrons and he wrote a beautiful post (Logos, Jesus, and the CTMU) and later recorded it for me so I could make it into a video and reach a wider audience. https://youtu.be/q5Fo3DHFJpY
Although faithfully following the teachings of Christ is a sure road to salvation, it’s not the only way. There are core values in many religions that are consistent with one another and each can provide a valid path to the discerning traveler. https://youtu.be/OA1SDjZ00tE
There have been many great prophets throughout history that have brought great insight and value to their respective religions. Just because we believe that Christ was the cream of this crop doesn’t detract from the great contributions of others; or the ability of their teachings to provide a pathway to salvation, insofar as it coincides with teleology. As far as the question of whether or not Christ actually existed, we think there are sufficient accounts and evidence that attest to this. I don’t think Chris read The Case for Christ, but I very much enjoyed the compelling arguments made by Strobel and highly recommend it!
On Monday we celebrate the birth of this greatest of all who ever lived (even though he was probably not born right then). What he did, what he went through, he didn’t do it for Catholics or Christians, he did it for humans. We are all God’s children and need nothing but love, will, and prayer to strengthen our connection to Our Creator and find our Way. Love one another and spread the Word! Thanks everyone for sharing your hearts and thoughts. Enjoy this blessed extended weekend :)
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjqVqbLn1lvPK7Y7cO4Mo5lNpbYW-B485&si=9wxm0MO8NH7pgMCR
Thank you. I am new to CTMU but everything Chris has written or spoken that I have come across I resonate including (and importantly) his person & character. I wish I had more time but in time I intend to read everything he has written so that I can ask intelligent questions. Now Buddhists or Hindus would have difficulty accepting the supremacy of Christ over Buddha or Krishna! One problem we face is that of language because most of us read in translation, including the Bible. My mentor in Tibetan Buddhism knew 22 languages, including (ancient) Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Sanskrit, Pali, and Tibetan. Reading the original texts in the original language is different from reading their translation. I have translated ancient Japanese and Chinese scriptures into English, and I know it is virtually an impossible task. Each language is a paradigm of reality. There are presently 6000 languages on the planet. Ancient languages pose further problems. Therefore, we do need a meta-religious, meta-language/meta-paradigm, metaphysical framework such as CTMU which can be understood without having 200 IQ! Also, Metareligion must not be Christ-centered or Buddha-centered. We must free ourselves from the personage-centeredness. In this regard, in Buddhism, in Tibetan Buddhism in particular, Buddha is not understood as a person but the process-state (syntax-state) of light spreading and darkness dissipating. At any rate, having worked on what Chris & you call the human singularity, I am vitally interested in your work in this area. Thank you.
Dr. Gina Langan & Mr. Herman:
St. Gregory of Nazianzus’s (c. 329 – 390) following statements are highly relevant to our conversation. As you know, St. Gregory of Nazianzus is one of the key theologians who laid the foundation for the trinitarianism.
From: St. Gregory of Nazianzus: Oration 30: On the Son - Section 20
(1) I take the view that he is called “Son” because he is not simply identical in substance with the Father but stems from him. He is “Only-begotten” not just because he alone stems uniquely from what is unique, but because he does so in a unique fashion unlike things corporeal.
(2) He is “Word,” because he is related to the Father as word is to mind, not only by reason of the undisturbed character of his birth, but also through the connection and declaratory function involved in the relationship.
(3) One could say too, perhaps, that his relationship is that of definition to term defined, since “word” has the meaning in Greek of “definition.” He who has known the Son (“seen” means “known” in that context) has known the Father.
(4) The Son is the concise and simple revelation of the Father’s nature—everything born is a tacit definition of its parent.
(5) You would not be wrong, were you to explain the name from the fact that he exists inherently in real things. Is there anything whose being is not held together by reason?
(6) He is called “Wisdom” as being the science of matters divine and human. How could the maker be ignorant of the principles involved in his works?
(7) He is “Power” because he is what sustains his creatures and furnishes them with the power to maintain themselves.
(8) He is “Truth” because truth is a single whole, whilst falsehood is a splintered complex, and because he is the unstained seal, the utterly faithful impress of the Father.
(9) He is called “Image” because he is consubstantial with the Father; he stems from the Father and not the Father from him, it being the nature of an image to copy the original and be called after it. But there is more to it than this. The ordinary image is a motionless copy of a moving being. Here we have a living image of a living being, indistinguishable from its original to a higher degree than Seth from Adam and any earthly offspring from its parent. Beings with no complexity to their nature have no points of likeness or unlikeness. They are exact replicas, identical rather than like.
(10) He is called “Light” because he is the brilliance of souls pure in mind and life. If ignorance and sin are darkness, knowledge and inspired life must be light.
(11) He is “Life” because he is “Light” constituting and giving reality to every thinking being. “For in him we live, move, and exist” and there is a two-fold sense in which he breathes into us; we are filled, all of us, with his breath, and those who are capable of it, all those who open their mind’s mouth wide enough, with his Holy Spirit.
(12) He is called “Righteousness” because he decides in accordance with merit; he makes a fair assessment of the superior.
(13) He is called “Sanctification” because he is purity, so that what is pure may be filled with his pureness.
(14) He is “Redemption,” because he sets us free from the bonds of sin and gives himself in exchange for us as a ransom sufficient to cleanse the world.
(15) He is “Resurrection” because he raises us up from this world and leads us on to life, done to death, though we were, by sin.
From: St. Gregory of Nazianzus: Oration 30: On the Son Section 21
(1) These titles so far, of course, belong to him on both levels, the transcendent and the human. Those that are distinctively human and belong to what he assumed from us are, first, “Man.” He bears the title, “Man” not just with a view to being accessible through his body to corporeal things—being in all other respects inaccessible, owing to the incomprehensibility of his nature—but with the aim of hallowing Man through himself, by becoming a sort of yeast for the whole lump. He has united with himself all that lay under condemnation, in order to release it from condemnation. For all our sakes he became all that we are, sin apart—body, soul, mind, all that death pervades. The joint result is a man who is visibly, because he is spiritually discerned as, God.
(2) He is “Son of Man” through Adam and through the Virgin, from whom he was descended—from Adam his forefather, from the Virgin by the law of motherhood, not by that of fatherhood.
(3) He is “Christ” because of his Godhead. The “chrisis” or “anointing” is the anointing of his humanity. Unlike all other anointed men, it does not hallow him by its action, but by the presence of the anointer in fullness. (The effect here is to give what anoints the title, “Man,” and to make what receives the unction “God.”)
(4) He is “the Way” because he takes us along with him. He is “the Door” because he leads us in.
(5) He is “Shepher,” because he settles us in green pastures, nurtures us by still waters, leading us hence and defending us against wild beasts. The straying he turns back, the lost he recovers; what is broken he binds up, what is strong he watches. Using the principles of pastoral science, he gathers us into his heavenly fold.
(6) He is called “Sheep” because he was sacrificed, a “Lamb” because he was without blemish.
(7) He is the “High Pries,” because he presented the offering.
(8) “Melchizedek” because on the transcendent level he had no mother, on the human level no father, and his high estate is without genealogy. “Who,” it says, “can recount his generation?” He is “Melchizedek” too, as King of Salem, or Peace, as King of Righteousness, and because he tithes the Patriarchs who prevailed over evil powers.
(9) There you have the Son’s titles. Walk like God through all that are sublime, and with a fellow-feeling through all that involve the body; but better, treat all as God does, so that you may ascend from below to become God, because he came down from above for us.
(10) Above all, keep hold of this truth and apply it to all the loftier and lowlier names and you will never fail: Jesus Christ in body and spirit the same, yesterday, today, and forever. Amen.
Never forget, 99% theoretical output from academia Inc. and knowledge al together for the past 13,000 years will be recycled for usefull components.
A.Einstein is a good example of what a 1% is.
Many people try to be prophetic and try to make a living out of it by terrorizing them in some sort of way, but eventually (Jesus) Christ that lives on.
Yes, Christ lives on, because He is the Eternal, the Truth, and the Way—because He is the source of the Divine Entelechy (Alpha) and the fulfillment of the Cosmic Teleology (Omega) in the human form.
In my view, Albert Einstein belongs to the 99%; he was and he has always been. From the beginning he was made a star by the establishments, not only the scientific but also the political-military establishments.
The true seers and prophets of modern science, the 1%, include Giordano Bruno, Roger Joseph Boscovich, and Nikola Tesla. Virtually all of the 1% in science and philosophy of the modern age (since the 16th century), have been persecuted, prosecuted, immolated, ignored, or at best marginalized by their contemporaries.
To be able to recognize and support those rare few belonging to the 1% requires genius, courage, and generosity.
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